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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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So tommorrows storm instability will come from that cloud mass in Central and southern NSW ?
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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Johnoo, I just totally discount AccessG from experience over past 2 months, too lazy to access EC direct (simply look at WZ EC "rainless" charts and as you know (and poo hoo) - I have heaps of faith in GFS as it comes to play for us SE of the Vic divide.

WISH it would rain though - and also when I posted, AccessR hadnt updated on WZ and have been glued to Yasi since. So I guess a bit half baked and hopefully overly pessamistic. Hope you get plenty - and you will all know about it if we get some out here of course!!! :D
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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Isolated shower and thunderstorm acitivty tomorrow is thanks to the increase in moisture levels across the state overnight, and the trough that moved over most of the state today. This trough will retrograde to western/southern Victoria tomorrow and remain there most of the week, thus acting as the trigger. I think most areas of Victoria should see some action during the week. This will accumulate into a larger event on Saturday with rain areas.
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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EC totally ignoring most models lead, hell bent on this cold air interaction friday evening. Been watching each run and its just been going from strength to strength. Very difficult to pick a decaying cyclone AND the low pressure polar air belt and get them to interact. We are only 72-96hrs away :|

GFS just wants the current trough to sit no further than north of the Murray and use the cyclone exhaust / tropical infeed all to itself. It had been working the trough southwest 100/200kms at a time in the last 3 runs but the 06z run has gone back the other way. :?

CMC wants a foot in each door. ACCESS rubbish
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

Post by WaterBaby »

I hope I'm posting this in the right spot (sorry in advance).
I've been keeping a very close eye on any up coming rains and came upon this chart:
http://wxmaps.org/pix/prec7.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Being a total newbie and not wanting to interpret it wrong... can someone explain the bottom diagram to me? Does it mean that most of western Vis has a greater than 600% chance of typical rain fall for this period? I'm probably totally way off....

We're going away for the weekend and i'll be lifting things up and taking certificates with me in case we are isolated again. If Cairn Curran gets much rain, we are screwed.
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

Post by Twister »

Yeah it all depends on how far W and S Yasi gets

TC Ants looks to bring some nice rain and Storms along the Murray which is bad news for many up that way, and yes many areas around and W and S of Swan hill still quite a bit under water even after 40c days

Looking forward to seeing how far South Tc Ants can get and what it will bring us, though think tomorrow like many my eyes will be in N Qld

Hopefully models will settle by tomorrow night Thursday morning

Looking like some solid falls in N NE parts and maybe central areas as well
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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Anthony Violi wrote: As opposed to most to of Northern and Eastern Vic, 200mm is my tip for most places.
That had better not include this district, because thats where most of the flooding up north originates, a little west of here actually
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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From Weatherzone...

On Wednesday, a broad trough across the interior and a series of lows is likely to allow widespread storm development.

Storms are likely to be severe across the southeast with flash flooding, large hail and damaging winds possible.

So fingers crossed for a nice storm or two.
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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Please can we get a nice summer storm tomorrow!! cmon weather gods be kind for once this year.
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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Yeah I'm with you DC.
Don't have to go back to work till Monday so i'm really hoping for a bit of storm action.
It is always seems to happen when I'm at work.
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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While some debate how dry and brown we are :? we are heading towards another pretty savage rain event for the north and east which could spark further problems.

EC has around 100mm widespread through many areas and other models including CMC, NOGAPS have about the same with GFS still persisting on it's own pushing rain northeast.

In any case it is gonig to be a very large rain producer for the northeast and catchments and possibly into the fire areas of Gippsland. Nothing like nature putting out what it started!

Melbourne at this time looks good to recieve average Feb rainfalls and to remain cool next week. Not a bad start to the month and keeps running in the theme of wetter and cooler than normal.
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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Hoping for a thunderstorm today, however judging by the latest run on Stormcast, all interest for areas near Melbourne is Friday afternoon. Very high numbers associated with this run, so i'm excited. Been a while since I've posted anything, but then again things have been rather boring, apart from the Cat 5 cyclone Yasi about to smash Cairns and surrounding areas.
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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Visability down to about 1 Km because of smoke so can't see the sky. Thought we might be a bit of chance for a rumble later so will have to watch radar closely. EC has 3 inches of rain here for Saturday, hmmmm.
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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First spots of rain at 0900hrs is quiet heavy at present. Hard to beleive but Hunters Hill is already up to 41mm really hasn't looked much on radar must have been really heavy up there.
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

Post by Karl Lijnders »

High humidity and near saturation at all levels will mean that rainfall will fall very easily!! Slack steering also means that heavy cores will pump the same area for a greater period of time.

Nice day here in Melbourne so far with lots of high cloud and light NE winds. Can make out convection over the N and NE sky.

Cannot see much in the way of storms today IMO, but should see rain develop overnight with the chance of thunder.
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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Latest GFS had me falling out of my chair... 500mm bullseye over Benalla in coming week, mostly falling in coming days. End of run has 100mm+ along northern slopes from leftovers of Yasi.
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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I think GFS is having a meltdown and has been struggling getting charts out in it's single run. So I am disregarding what it has to say.

In any case the ensemble looks wet for the region.

I am finding that the consensus is behind EC and the rainfall is more logical.
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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IDV65758
Australian Government Bureau of Meteorology
Victoria Regional Office

THUNDERSTORM FORECAST
Issued at 11:29 am Wednesday, 2 February 2011,
Valid until midnight on Wednesday, 2 February 2011.
A broad threat area of severe thunderstroms across northern and eastern Victoria for Today. The combination of surface trough, tropical moisture levels from ex-Tropical Cyclone Anthony and a warm airmass will provide ideal conditions for thunderstorms to develop. Thunderstorms under these conditions are likely to produce heavy rainfall leading to localised flash flooding. There is also the risk of hail and wind gusts with storms due to high levels of instability.


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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

Post by James »

what time are the storms supposed to kick off?

if its coming down from the north, are they likely to encroach toward melbourne...we are on the edge at least on that chart!
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Re: Victoria - Tropical rain event - February 2nd-8th 2010

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No way will we see storms here IMO, will be wrong now that i've said that :P
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