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Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:46 am
by hillybilly
Back to winter :) Not a lot here with rainband shreaded by the ranges and showers quite hit and miss, but 4mm so far. Snow level has dropped down to about 700m, with a bit on the mountain.

Patchy falls around vic but most got something decent. Ski resorts got pretty lucky with temps just cool enough, and the transition from rain/sleet to snow changing pretty early. They look like ski resorts today :D Looks like 5-20cm at the resorts.

Now comes the monster high. It’s going to get close to the highest pressure on record measured anywhere in Australia (1044hPa). Progs had it touching that number mid week. Going to be some cracking frosts and fog.

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:32 am
by StratoBendigo
16mm over the past week. Not a bad result.

A cold 1 degC and light frost this morning. Probably no rain for the next two weeks going by that blocking High. Ugh.

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:08 am
by Gordon
A disappointing 4.5mm in the gauge at 9am; expected about double that. Finishes June way less than half of average at 31.5mm, ytd 234mm vs 380mm average.

Sleety rain here this morning with the odd small flake at 2.5C. Ski resorts look to have done okay - not a bad start to school hols for them. (Macedonian might be a chance for proper snow if that stream of showers lines up?)

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:32 pm
by hillybilly
Coldest day here in 2C with a max of 8.2C. Plenty of showers with 8mm so far. Snow on the mountain was falling to about 600m, and settling to 700mm. Had a great hike across the top this arvo in blizzard conditions.

We just made it to average in the end so our first month to get there all year. It’s actually quite muddy atm, but not much runoff happening as there hasn’t been any particularly heavy falls but just dribbles day after day.

Will post some photos late.

Now comes the monster high. This is one crazy winter. Never seen such stuck patterns before.

Couple of shots around kunyani / Mt Wellington this arvo

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And the beach this morning with some cracking swell. Didn’t think to take the surf board….
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Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:42 am
by snowfall
A foggy, drizzly morning here. We managed to get 10mm over the weekend, most of which fell after 9am yesterday.

That brought June's total to a pitiful 20mm and July starts with 6mm. So a very dry June here and I kind of suspect that July might turn out to be on the dry side too, especially with a long stretch with a blocking high. On the plus side, it's cold and there's barely any evaporation so things don't look dry.

We also finished the month about half a degree below average for both max and min temps.

Will be interesting to see how low the overnight temps get this week. Should see a couple of frosts here, but will likely be some severe ones further north.

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:04 pm
by Macedonian
Gordon wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:08 am A disappointing 4.5mm in the gauge at 9am; expected about double that. Finishes June way less than half of average at 31.5mm, ytd 234mm vs 380mm average.

Sleety rain here this morning with the odd small flake at 2.5C. Ski resorts look to have done okay - not a bad start to school hols for them. (Macedonian might be a chance for proper snow if that stream of showers lines up?)
Nope! Not even sleet. We did have our coldest max of the month though. Only made it to 3.6°

We had one of our coldest months in our 21 years here. The average max for June was only 5.9°. Really cold virtually every day.

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:26 pm
by Macedonian
Already half a degree below zero at my place.

I see Melbourne CBD has a forecast minimum of zero for tomorrow morning. Not sure that I've ever seen such a low temp forecast.

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:24 pm
by hillybilly
Nice frosty 1C here this morning. Tomorrow should be colder, but do need the winds to go off shore. We have had a light onshore southwesterly all day.

Apparently if Melbourne gets below zero will be the first time since 1984. I doubt it will but will see. The Melbourne site is very compromised with urban warming and site moves, so guess all you could say is it’s gonna be cold :D

Numbers further out aren’t that remarkable which is strange. Would usually expect around -5C or lower out Coldstream way if it was near zero in the cbd.

Am watching some of the inland TAS sites for low numbers with a cover of snow above about 800m and an extreme high. Dont think the uppers are cold enough for records but might throw up some interesting numbers.

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:45 pm
by stevco123
hillybilly wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:24 pm Nice frosty 1C here this morning. Tomorrow should be colder, but do need the winds to go off shore. We have had a light onshore southwesterly all day.

Apparently if Melbourne gets below zero will be the first time since 1984. I doubt it will but will see. The Melbourne site is very compromised with urban warming and site moves, so guess all you could say is it’s gonna be cold :D

Numbers further out aren’t that remarkable which is strange. Would usually expect around -5C or lower out Coldstream way if it was near zero in the cbd.

Am watching some of the inland TAS sites for low numbers with a cover of snow above about 800m and an extreme high. Dont think the uppers are cold enough for records but might throw up some interesting numbers.
Always an interesting topic with the Melbourne CBD site. Where the AWS used to be on La Trobe St, it was very compromised and a lot warmer than surrounds (hence why i question the overall official average of the CBD site). Where it is now is sort of city, but not really CBD, but definitely a better measure than previous. Either way, as you mentioned it's just cold overall. A whole week of 11-13 degrees for a maximum WITHOUT the usual showers is somewhat unusual I'd say.
First we had a road weather alert for Melbourne a couple weeks ago, and now a forecast of ZERO tonight, both of which I haven't seen in a very long time. Screenshot for future reference attached :)

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:23 am
by Macedonian
-1.6° at home and -4° awaiting me at work at Bolobek. Lowest I can see is -5 at Woodend and quite mild in the north around Bendigo.

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:13 am
by hillybilly
Temps all over the place depending on whether you held onto cloud and a breeze or not last night. Most notable number I’ve seen is the -12.9C at Liawenee which is a new July record in the ~20 years of data. Melbourne’s 1.0C must be the coldest in a few years.

Here around Hobart we had Sc through the night so nothing remarkable, most numbers around 2 or 3C. Pressures are generally around 1040hPa so edging towards the national record of 1044hPa, but some way to go.

Btw for those wondering, pressure in southern Australia is rising due to climate change. The trend is up by nearly 2.5hPa since the 1950s. The rises are because the high pressure belt is expanding south as the tropics broaden and the westerlies get squeeze over the southern ocean.

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:38 am
by Macedonian
Shame that Melbourne missed its zero.

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:42 am
by Skywalker
Dropped to -1.1°as I was riding to work according to the local Laverton station. Cars iced up everywhere as I was working the dog earlier. Good luck to those drivers. ;)

Very much counting down the days until at least September. Can't stand this uneventful cold crap. :(

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:05 am
by stevco123
hillybilly wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:13 am Temps all over the place depending on whether you held onto cloud and a breeze or not last night. Most notable number I’ve seen is the -12.9C at Liawenee which is a new July record in the ~20 years of data. Melbourne’s 1.0C must be the coldest in a few years.

Here around Hobart we had Sc through the night so nothing remarkable, most numbers around 2 or 3C. Pressures are generally around 1040hPa so edging towards the national record of 1044hPa, but some way to go.

Btw for those wondering, pressure in southern Australia is rising due to climate change. The trend is up by nearly 2.5hPa since the 1950s. The rises are because the high pressure belt is expanding south as the tropics broaden and the westerlies get squeeze over the southern ocean.
Melbourne CBD's 1.0 is the coldest since 2022 when it got down to 0.8.

Down to -1.2 here in Cranbourne. 0.7 at 9am so that (or lower) will stick for tomorrow's minimum in the record books

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:23 am
by StratoBendigo
-1c here this morning. A southerly breeze blew nearly all night keeping the temps up. Happens often.

Some indications of a bit of rain from an inland low next week. It could be useful rain.

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:30 pm
by QldTwister
Freezing morning, cars covered in ice at 12am last night, assume about -1c here this moring house was 9c when woke up :o

So cold over the cold but lovely bright sunny day thats nice

Agree bring on Sept Oct over the cold alreday lol

Next week looking acive rain from inland low and weak front, then strong front mid next week.

Also looks like the Wly belt arcs up and returns later next week so typical cold wet windy winter weather set to return

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:15 am
by hillybilly
New TAS July record overnight with -13.5C at Liawenee. That site is only twenty years old so it missed many historic cold spells, but still notable. Unfortunately there were no Tasmanian sites above 1000m until the mid 1980s, so historic events such as June 1983 when it snowed to sea level on three consecutive days aren’t captured. My gut feeling is the historical records would be in the range of -20C but we will never know.

Nothing too remarkable here in southern Tasmania as light onshore winds kept Sc over us for most the night.

Other thing to watch is the pressure. Record for Australia is 1044.3 hPa. Few station near 1043 atm, so that record might fall, would guess maybe 50:50.

Finally some weather showing up next week with a trough in the easterlies, drifting south and eventually allowing the westerlies to break through. Quite a mild one so will be rainy on the alps, but should get cooler about this time next week.

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:41 am
by Macedonian
HB, is it an official site or a PWS?

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:20 pm
by StratoBendigo
A very warm 15c already. We'll almost certainly have our hottest July for Max temps at the current rate.

Hopefully some more typical July weather later in the Month. Some indications of that after July 12th.

Deep low with some showers: Last week of June

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:22 pm
by stevco123
Not sure what BoM is up to. They had a forecast of 13 today for the CBD, then revised it to 9 at midday, only for the temp to reach 12.

Myself as a somewhat amateur meteorologist could see the milder mixing in from the south.