Yes mate, it almost looks cyclonic as it is spinning anti-clockwise.daviescr wrote:Where abouts Wes? The system that's about 60k's of the Gold Coast?
1974 comes flooding back as Brisbane on alert
By Brigid Andersen
Updated 57 minutes ago
Flooding tragedy: Albert Street in the Brisbane CBD during the January 1974 Brisbane floods (AAP: Queensland State Archives)
As rain continues to fall on south-east Queensland, flooding rivers and swamping towns, the risk of Brisbane flooding like it did in 1974 grows higher.
Over the Australia Day weekend in 1974 the Brisbane River broke its banks and inundated the city, killing 14 people and flooding almost 6,000 homes.
The flood followed months of rain which had filled rivers in the south-east, then when Cyclone Wanda dumped heavy rain over the region these rivers were pushed over the limit, leading to the worst floods of the century.
It is a pattern that now seems to be repeating itself.
Swollen creeks and rivers are flooding towns, causing pockets of isolation across south-east Queensland.
The Brisbane River is on flood alert and already residents are being offered sandbags.
Professor Roger Stone is a climatologist from the University of Southern Queensland and Australia's representative for the UN commission on climatology and agricultural meteorology.
He says the La Nina weather pattern, which is currently pushing monsoonal conditions over parts of Australia, is the same as the one experienced in the lead-up to the 1974 floods.
"It's the same type of pattern in the Pacific Ocean. That was one of the major La Ninas," he said.
"We had a similar pattern in 1954 and '55 and also back in 1893 and we've had a few slightly less intense patterns in the meantime - 1988, 2008 and a few intervening years that aren't quite as strong as this."
Professor Stone says this pattern means the risk Brisbane will experience another flood like that in 1974 is eight times higher.
"I know looking at the work we do for the water authorities and other agencies, instead of the risk being about 5 per cent in any year, this year it's about 30 to 40 per cent," he said.
"So the risk is certainly increased. It's not guaranteed, but as with many agencies and insurance agencies and water resource folk working on risk management, we know that the risk is substantially increased in a year like this."
Brisbane's defence
The Wivenhoe Dam was built in the aftermath of 1974 as Brisbane's defence against another major flood.
But even this may not be enough to prevent a disaster downstream.
SEQ Water has been releasing 170,000 megalitres of water from the dam a day in preparation for flooding.
The releases have led to minor flooding in communities below the dam.
Many creeks in Brisbane's suburban areas are prone to flash flooding and Professor Stone says the weather conditions will test the city's town planning.
He says the success of the Wivenhoe Dam will depend on the type of weather pattern experienced.
"It depends exactly how the rain falls and where it falls and which sort of catchments areas are involved," he said.
"It might help in certain circumstances, but it depends exactly on the nature of the rainfall event or the rainfall events because the one we have at the moment may not be the last one - we could have more of these types of events over the next couple of months."
Not over yet
There has been plenty of warning about La Nina and what she could bring.
The weather pattern began last May and back then parts of northern Victoria and southern New South Wales fell victim to flooding from intense rain.
Professor Stone says there is still a way to go before the risk of flooding from La Nina passes.
"These types of systems tend to start in May-June of any year and last until the following autumn, so the climate year tends to run autumn to autumn," he said.
"You'd expect the main hope for this to start to break down to be in about three months' time, so we still have a long way to go yet."
And Professor Stone says we are yet to see the tropical cyclones usually spawned out of the Coral Sea during these kinds of weather patterns.
"Queensland still has a long way to go, and in fact this also applies to parts of New South Wales and to northern Australia," he said.
"There's still a fair way to go before we see the breakdown of the underlying cause of the whole problem.
"Sometimes they can go through to a second year, so when we get closer to May-June we'll have a better idea if this will continue on or whether it will do what we hope it will do and start to break down."
Flash flood hits Toowoomba16:12 AEST Mon Jan 10 2011
A flash flood has hit the city of Toowoomba west of Brisbane with witnesses saying cars have been swept away, police say.
"It's very early reports but it seems there's been a real flash flood up there. We understand cars could be swept away," a police spokesman told AAP.
He said witnesses had reported flash flooding around the 2 metre mark, including in locations close to the city centre.
There were reports of cars affected by a landslide on the New England Highway on the northern outskirts of the city, the spokesman said.
The ABC reported two women had been swept away in Toowoomba.
Police could not confirm that.
Meso, in that clip, the van hits a tree (the 2nd one) and there is a bloke holding on the other side.Meso wrote:Wow. The water is tossing cars around like they're nothing!
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Yeah, I think you hear the guy say "He's still there" thankfully. Amazing stuff. Heaps more clips on YouTube.Sniper wrote:Meso, in that clip, the van hits a tree (the 2nd one) and there is a bloke holding on the other side.Meso wrote:Wow. The water is tossing cars around like they're nothing!
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Absolutely horrific!
Wes, may I ask where you are obtaining this information? Scary stuff. The crisis hits another level when events like this happen.Sniper wrote:Can now confirm 3 dead and a 7m wall of water approaching the Bremer River.
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