ECL followed by a sequence of fronts: June 5-12

[Gordon]

A further 5mm in showers overnight and this morning makes 14mm for the dates.

[Pengaz]

21mm for the date range. Had some decent winds on Tuesday.

Calm and very cold this morning.

[stevco123]

Maximum of 10.1 in the city today. Now waiting for some magical air tomorrow morning to somehow blow in before 9am to push "today's" max over that 10.1.

Ridiculous way of measuring temps. Should be midnight to midnight

[hillybilly]

Melbourne with 10.1C headed for its coldest day in five years. Pretty unremarkable number by historical standards. As a kiddie recall sub 10s happened pretty often, but guess not so much now a day.

Southerly to southeasterlies set to persist for another few days, not really clearing to Tuesday. Looks quite wet for eastern Tasmania and Victoria but not much elsewhere. For today little upper low and trough rotating into the Wimmera which tends to peter out but is a handy top up for parts which have been really dry.

Messy system next week with a bit split across models. Something brewing but not quite sure what

[hillybilly]

Maximum of 10.1 in the city today. Now waiting for some magical air tomorrow morning to somehow blow in before 9am to push "today's" max over that 10.1.

Ridiculous way of measuring temps. Should be midnight to midnight

If you change the approach you can no longer easily compare values with the past. We know that quite a few cold days (well they would if it wasn’t for global warming) and also warm night record are missed by numbers coming in around 9am.

Still quite cool in Melbourne so pretty good chance the 10.1C will stick.

[StratoBendigo]

Currently 4c, overcast. BOM have amended the forecast max to 9c here.

Next week looks similarly cold.

[stevco123]

Maximum of 10.1 in the city today. Now waiting for some magical air tomorrow morning to somehow blow in before 9am to push "today's" max over that 10.1.

Ridiculous way of measuring temps. Should be midnight to midnight

If you change the approach you can no longer easily compare values with the past. We know that quite a few cold days (well they would if it wasn’t for global warming) and also warm night record are missed by numbers coming in around 9am.

Still quite cool in Melbourne so pretty good chance the 10.1C will stick.

There are a number of years that should be homogenised from the old Melbourne site- the one where it was consistently the warmest in the state due to it not getting southerly winds properly. I would say data between 1999 and when it closed is what needs to be looked at. This is when most of the sub 10 degree days weren't happening when they should have been. I recall several days where the whole state would be under 15 for example, but the Melbourne CBD would record 18s and 19s. Also the never ending concrete build up is doing wonders to the UHI effect.

[hillybilly]

9.4C here yesterday for our second sub 10C max for the week. Today looks similar and Sunday and Monday about the same but wetter. Another 2mm overnight. Month is slowly adding up and should pass average by later Monday

Melbournes site measures Melbourne temps. That is its purpose. Pointless homogenising it, as then it wouldn’t be what people experience. If you want to know what global warming is doing you use rural stations, oceans temps, satellites soundings etc. They are all clear that we are now around +1.5C which is the Paris goal. Paris was set as a guard rail to avoid dangerous climate change.

[stevco123]

9.4C here yesterday for our second sub 10C max for the week. Today looks similar and Sunday and Monday about the same but wetter. Another 2mm overnight. Month is slowly adding up and should pass average by later Monday

Melbournes site measures Melbourne temps. That is its purpose. Pointless homogenising it, as then it wouldn’t be what people experience. If you want to know what global warming is doing you use rural stations, oceans temps, satellites soundings etc. They are all clear that we are now around +1.5C which is the Paris goal. Paris was set as a guard rail to avoid dangerous climate change.

All well and fair, but then why does BoM homogenise data from 100 years ago at other sites? We have been consistently told that Melbourne is several degrees above the long term average, yet rural areas have only gone up by less than a degree in most cases. It's inconsistent.
The old Melbourne site was measuring incorrectly hence why it was moved (as per the press release from BoM). That's why they should homogenise the data. BoM admits they fiddle the numbers (homogenise) as listed on their website- which you know already obviously. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but they won't homogenise the data from the old Melbourne site as they'll have to amend the temperature downwards which won't sit well with the current narrative and record books will have to be rewritten.

>>> warm today with a top of 14-15, compared to the last 2 days haha. No wind but sure was chilly.

[hillybilly]

10.1C here today with light showers and mist. Hiked Kunanyi in the morning. Was clouded in super cooled fog with a huge amount of ice. Will posts some photos later. Never seen so much ice. In some spots it was more than 5cm thick built up on surfaces pointing into the wind.

Some photos from the mountain. Was stunning.

[hillybilly]

Just a cold blustery one here today. Winds a bit too southerly so showers have really dried out

Still, interest was with huge waves coming in from the south. Apparently waves topped 7m off the east cost (that is 14m top to bottom). On Hobart’s beaches were the biggest in two years. A lot of beach erosion, and in spots waves run up into parkland. Be interested to see how beaches out east have held up.

Few shots from Blackmans Bay.

[hillybilly]

Hard to believe but the ECL is going to last until about Thursday. Next low coming from the bight weakens and spins around the top injecting a bit more cold air and dragging it back west. Unfortunately very little rain for the week ahead. Really strange weather patterns atm.

[StratoBendigo]

Hard to believe but the ECL is going to last until about Thursday. Next low coming from the bight weakens and spins around the top injecting a bit more cold air and dragging it back west. Unfortunately very little rain for the week ahead. Really strange weather patterns atm.

Yes, although not surprising given the warm Sea Surface temps over the Tasman Sea, with cold air above to convect that heat upwards.

We've had a couple decent frosts the last two mornings. But mild days which is normal here with Southeasterly Foehn winds.

[Macedonian]

It's boring weather bit it's been fairly chilly up here at Mt Macedon. We haven't had a max higher than 7° since last Tuesday.
This mornings light frost has lasted all day in the shade.

[hillybilly]

Few showers here overnight with winds going more easterly now. Meanwhile, the incoming low is weakening and will just add to the block for a few more days.

Looks like rain will largely rotate around the southeast, with some in northern Victoria and eastern parts of Tasmania and Victoria. Melbourne looks like it might be a miss.

[StratoBendigo]

-3c this morning. Coldest of the year so far.

[Macedonian]

I saw a PWS at Kyneton that had -4.7° this morning.

[StratoBendigo]

I saw a PWS at Kyneton that had -4.7° this morning.

-6c reported at Elphinstone. That's always been a frost hollow.

[stevco123]

A potential cold night ruined last night by cloud here. And looks to be same tonight. Forecast of zero for Cranbourne, but doesn't
look like dissipating any time soon. Bummer

[stevco123]

Quite rare black ice warning for Melbourne for tomorrow morning