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snowfall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:34 am
3.8c overnight here. No frost of course but it's still good to be closer to normal.
Just a smidgeon of rain here yesterday, which wasn't quite enough to register in the gauge. It's turning into a dry month, and very El Nino-like, although we're not quite in an El Nino yet.
Wow, it was -2° with a huge frost this morning at Macedon when I arrived at work.
Amazing to see the differences. It's pretty common actually. On many occasions, we've had colder temps at altitudes below us and above us, probably due to an inversion for areas below while cold air still settles across tableland areas above. Typically, we'll see maybe only a couple of frosts per winter here.
That's interesting. We get frequent heavy frosts at Bolobek where I work. The whole farm is in a low area that used to be a huge wetland at the foot of Mt Macedon. It was drained and cleared when whiteys took over. It's the meeting point of five creeks, a natural frost hollow.
We only get infrequent frost at home on the mountain. Still yet to drop below zero this year.
Sometimes when the conditions are right the frost cover can stay intact all day, sometimes for longer than one day. That (like snow) is much less likely now than it was twenty years ago. Too warm too often.
We had a max of 4.8° today. Min was 0.8°
Home- "Shepherd's Bush" at Mt Macedon. 870m
Work- "Bolobek" at Macedon. 430m
Been off camping for a couple of days down at Cockle Creek. Stunning area, with the walk to Southeast Cape the furtherest south you can get without a boat. Landscape is similar to the Prom, but climate is about 5C cooler so the tree line sits at 600m and there’s snow on the hills as a backdrop to the ocean.
Blustery couple of days, and a frost on Thursday. Front has fresh end things further, but was quite a dry system which was a bit of surprise given how it looked on the satellite. Moisture starved in the low and mid levels.
Struggling a bit for the next thread. Looked good for a stronger front on Saturday, but that’s going missing. Next week we have a boring high, then more mild northwest flow.
Next Tuesdays high is dominant and things looking pretty ordinary , after that weather looks bland as well . The wattles have been flowering now for 3 weeks and other plants are saying Spring is here . Sadly another dud Winter.
Macedonian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:23 pm
That's interesting. We get frequent heavy frosts at Bolobek where I work. The whole farm is in a low area that used to be a huge wetland at the foot of Mt Macedon. It was drained and cleared when whiteys took over. It's the meeting point of five creeks, a natural frost hollow.
We only get infrequent frost at home on the mountain. Still yet to drop below zero this year.
Sometimes when the conditions are right the frost cover can stay intact all day, sometimes for longer than one day. That (like snow) is much less likely now than it was twenty years ago. Too warm too often.
We had a max of 4.8° today. Min was 0.8°
Interesting - did not know that about the Bolobek area. Always amazes me how areas so close can differ so much in microclimate.
We had a couple of mm on Thursday but otherwise it’s looking fairly dry ahead, maybe a little bit tomorrow but still waiting for a decent rain event.
Light frost here this morning. Otherwise, mild days roll on. Nice cold pool headed for Queensland (current tracking through Adelaide) but unfortunately it passes well west of the Granite Belt, so won’t produce any low latitude snow.
Bit of a low showing up for late in the coming week. Perhaps new thread. Before then a few frosty mornings.
Derwent wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:29 pm
Next Tuesdays high is dominant and things looking pretty ordinary , after that weather looks bland as well . The wattles have been flowering now for 3 weeks and other plants are saying Spring is here . Sadly another dud Winter.
What plants are you seeing in flower that makes you think that spring is early?
I see people post on social media all.the time about early spring plants when in fact the plants they are talking about are winter flowerers and are usually doing their thing right on cue.
Home- "Shepherd's Bush" at Mt Macedon. 870m
Work- "Bolobek" at Macedon. 430m
Derwent wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:29 pm
Next Tuesdays high is dominant and things looking pretty ordinary , after that weather looks bland as well . The wattles have been flowering now for 3 weeks and other plants are saying Spring is here . Sadly another dud Winter.
What plants are you seeing in flower that makes you think that spring is early?
I see people post on social media all.the time about early spring plants when in fact the plants they are talking about are winter flowerers and are usually doing their thing right on cue.
We’ve had some plum trees flowers starting in late June. Our wattles started flowering about the first week of July.
Probably the most remarkable thing here is that I’ve had to cut the lawn throughout winter here. Every two weeks and sometimes every week.
Our bees have been active through winter. They are really “enjoying” the huge amount of winter flowers and mild days.
July is running about 3C above average here, and hasn’t given us a proper frost yet. It’s been more like a typical September.
Fairly unremarkable spell of weather here, with cool, drizzly and often windy conditions. Temps (max & min) are only running about half a degree above average, so not enough to really notice. July rainfall is down at 30mm mtd, but again, it's been so wet up until now, there's still water everywhere.
Just back from a week in the Snowys, where we were reminded of what serious cold feels like. We were mostly in the valleys, yet it often hit zero soon after sunset, and one night got down to minus 8C! Where we mostly stayed at 1100m asl, the ice never melted in the shade all day.
Tassiedave wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:35 pm
16.2 degrees in Hobart today. Avge this July 14.5 degrees. Long term avge: 11.8. Record 13.9 (2010) Hobart forecast rest of July: 15,16,16,15,13,16,16
Very sad news , nothing near average .
Be interesting how August turns out probably nothing but more of the same
Looking very likely Hobart will break its overnight minimum average as well set in 1930 @ 6.6 c currently running at 7.4 c with only warm nights ahead .
Not as bad as in Huon valley we are at 4.4 c over average atm
Feel like a broken record. Mild days and nights roll on. 10C this morning, after a max of 15.8C.
Today looks like landing about 15C. Blustery change for Thursday but there is little cold air with it. Strange having a mid winter front which doesn’t usher in colder weather. New thread up for that one.
Same up here in Canberra re maximums, currently sitting on an average of 14.0 for July Vs av 12.7C at the airport.
Tuggeranong is sitting on 14.2C vs Av 12.4C. Rest of the month looks in around 16 or 17. Minimums on the offer hand have been cold with many frosts, e.g. Tuggeranong is averaging -0.6C vs 0.1C.
Tassiedave wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:35 pm
16.2 degrees in Hobart today. Avge this July 14.5 degrees. Long term avge: 11.8. Record 13.9 (2010) Hobart forecast rest of July: 15,16,16,15,13,16,16
Some these days above now revised to 17c insane
It’s like it’s October already
Minimum of 11C here this morning. That’s about our usual max for this time of year. Currently 12.9C at 7am, which is already about 1.5C above the usual max.
Never seen such persistent warmth anywhere. Sure we break lots of warm records now a days, but we are currently running about a degree above the previous warmest July here. Variability is low in winter so it means that almost every single day has been like mid spring, rather than mid winter.
Worry is that frosts for here could be damaging. Lots of early flowering and budding going on. Talking to local bee keepers they’ve never seen bees active like they are now.
