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Nasa admits climate change is in the window of reasonable expectation...

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What a load of horse manure...the alarmists are out of the cage again. This is close to the most ridiculuos thing ever printed.

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To rise 500mm by 2100, which is unavoidable( the best laugh i have had for a while) sea level need to rise 18mm a year. Currently they have been rising at 1.5mm a year.

A number of Sydney suburbs will be inundated regularly because of climate change-driven sea-level rises, threatening homes and community infrastructure worth billion of dollars by the end of the century, new projections show.

In the first detailed attempt to study the impacts of sea-level rises on low-lying coastal areas and help local government planning, the government has released high-resolution maps that show the areas in Sydney and the central coast most under threat from sea-level rises.

Sydney suburbs facing significant danger of inundation, even with limited rises, include Caringbah, Kurnell, Cromer and Manly Vale. Significant parts of Newcastle and the central coast are also potentially in harm's way.

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Manly Dam at Manly Vale, one of the Sydney suburbs considered under threat.

And the problems associated with rising sea levels are not limited to coastal areas. Flooding could occur along the Parramatta River, threatening homes and infrastructure around Homebush Bay, Newington and Silverwater.

Along the Cooks River, Arncliffe and Marrickville could suffer, with the threat of significant inundation at Sydney Airport, too The maps show projected inundation for sea-level rises of 0.5 metres, which is likely to be unavoidable, 0.8 metres and 1.1 metres by 2100.

The projections combine rising sea levels and king tidal events, which can occur many times a year. The maps do not factor in protective infrastructure such as sea walls or show local effects such as beach erosion.


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Tim Flannery, who sits on the federal government's Coast and Climate Change Council, said he had been struck by the significant effects on inland suburbs from river flooding in all major Australian cities.

Professor Flannery said he hoped the maps would drive a national strategy to co-ordinate Australia's approach to sea-level rises, including universal planning laws.

Bruce Thom, the chairman of the Australian Coastal Society, said the next stage of projections would deal with localised studies, including the potential damage from flooding events on land and storm surges from the sea, which he said would show the real risks of rising sea levels.

The Climate Change Minister Greg Combet, who launched the maps in Newcastle yesterday, said in a statement the government recognised ''that coastal areas of Australia are a priority for adaptation action, with many communities vulnerable to impacts such as erosion and sea inundation''.

Last year the government released data revealing that an estimated 247,600 buildings valued at $63 billion could be damaged or lost due to sea-level rises.

In the same data, up to 62,400 homes in NSW - worth $18.7 billion - were estimated to be under threat from inundation, mainly in the local government areas of Lake Macquarie, Gosford Wyong, Wollongong, Shoalhaven and Rockdale.

The maps released yesterday also include projections for low-lying areas in other heavily populated centres, including Melbourne, Brisbane, the Gold Coast and Perth.

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Areas expected to be affected by rising sea levels include: Caringbah, Kurnell, Cromer, Manly Vale, Homebush Bay, Newington, Silverwater, Cooks River, Arncliffe, Marrickville, Sydney Airport, and parts of Newcastle and the central coast
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Coldest December since 1910 when records began. I thinks its the coldest december since Ferdinand Magellan rounded South America..
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Coldest in 110 years in Sweden..

Remember, this is weather not climate..

Except, in 2007 the IPCC said to forget about winter snow in Europe as it would be extremely rare.

Climate 101, get your stories straight.

Climate 102, start preparing how to explain for a new ice age.
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Climate 103....do it fast!

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Theres a fair bit happening on the climategate front. Of course, its nothing new that they inquiry was cover up, so a it looks like another one may begin. Also there has been another whistleblower for the BBC, showing they are biased alarmist and corrupt like all other warmistas. This is nothing new. Also, Michael Mann is still desperately trying to block attempts to release further emails, so much so the law may be changed in Virginia to prevent it happening.

FAir to assume that the whole science community is corrupt who believe in AGW, including Governments.

They can try and hide all they like, but the truth is slowly being released, and those responsible will eventually be jailed.

And James Hansen, NASAs biggest alarmist, will be the first. On false predictions alone 22 years ago, should get life for stupidity.
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Article/Column from Andrew Bolt...highlighting so many so called experts failings, who should be held accountable.

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THIS year we face two new taxes, one to deal with the floods, the other to deal with global warming that was supposed to leave our dams empty.

It’s not just the floods but the new taxes that prove the global-warming alarmists have made fools of us.

Consider: the Gillard Government now threatens us with a “carbon tax” to “stop” the warming we were told would give us endless drought, but also a levy to deal with the floods we got instead.

Hello?

More fool taxpayers for ever having believed the warming preachers who so profited from the greenhouse scare.

But more fool us if we now believe their latest claims that they predicted we’d actually have a third of Queensland under water, the Murray-Darling Basin in flood and dams overflowing after a year of heavy rain and a summer only Noah would love.

Just hear those brazen I-told-you-so’s. There’s Greens leader Bob Brown, of course, pretending the Queensland floods followed his script, and even blaming our coal miners for them:

“It’s the single biggest cause, burning coal, for climate change and it must take its major share of responsibility for the weather events we are seeing unfolding now.”

Ian Lowe, head of the Australian Conservation Foundation, also made the floods seem just as he predicted:

“The Queensland floods are another reminder of what climate science has been telling us for 25 years . . .”

Ditto young Ellen Sandell, head of the Australian Youth Climate Coalition:

“Scientists . . . have pointed to the evidence showing a warmer world is a wetter world . . . Professor David Karoly from Melbourne University’s school of earth sciences was quoted as saying that the wild weather extremes were in keeping with scientists forecasts of more flooding and more droughts . . .”

And, it’s true, warmists did warn of all kinds of general disasters and “extreme events”, from floods to droughts, hurricanes to wild fires, and insect plagues to lousier beer (true).

So if we got a flood followed by a drought, they could always say they predicted both, which is very handy.

But what did they specifically predict for those parts of Australia now in flood?

Something very different, actually. In fact, Brown in 2006 warned not of floods but an endless drought:


“From melting polar ice to the spectre of permanent drought in previously productive farmlands, the (World Meteorological Bureau’s) report makes clear that climate change is not just a future threat, it is damaging Australia now.”

And in 2008 he warned not of a Murray in flood but of a Murray empty:

“Already, (Rudd government adviser Ross Garnaut’s) daunting data of a 10 per cent chance of no flow at all in the Murray-Darling river system in future years is being overtaken by data indicating that drought is the new norm across Australia’s greatest food bowl.”

As Garnaut himself told the National Press Club about his influential report:

“It almost had an exciting title. When our team in Melbourne finished the draft of the draft a few weeks ago we held a naming competition and the winner by acclamation was No Pain, No Rain. [Laughter]”

The media laughed, yet pushed no climate story harder than this claim that manmade warming doomed us to drought. From The Age, August 30, 2009:

“A three-year collaboration between the Bureau of Meteorology and CSIRO has confirmed . . . that the 13-year drought is not just a natural dry stretch but a shift related to climate change . . .

“In the minds of a lot of people, the rainfall we had in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s was a benchmark, [said the bureau’s Bertrand Timbal]. . .

“But we are just not going to have that sort of good rain again as long as the system is warming up.”

The Sydney Morning Herald likewise unblinkingly reported claims we’d never again see good rain. From January 8, 2008, under the headline “This drought may never break”:

“It may be time to stop describing south-eastern Australia as gripped by drought and instead accept the extreme dry as permanent . .. ‘Perhaps we should call it our new climate,’ said the Bureau of Meteorology’s head of climate analysis, David Jones.”

The mantra was that global warming meant drought for us, and the 2007 Synthesis Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change - the Vatican of the warming faith - made no mention of more floods in Australia from rain.

Its predictions, co-authored by Prof Karoly, ran all the other way - that by 2030, our “water security problems are projected to intensify in southern and eastern Australia” and “production from agriculture and forestry is projected to decline”.

No surprise, professional alarmists amped up the scare, with Australian of the Year Tim Flannery in 2007 warning our dams would run dry and only desalination plants would save us:

“Over the past 50 years southern Australia has lost about 20 per cent of its rainfall, and one cause is almost certainly global warming . . .

“In Adelaide, Sydney and Brisbane, water supplies are so low they need desalinated water urgently, possibly in as little as 18 months.”

Added Flannery:

“Even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river systems . . .”

You may scoff now, but these alarmists persuaded our politicians, and with costly consequences. Queensland Premier Peter Beattie was so sure manmade warming would dry our rains that he ordered the desalination plant that’s now mothballed, the dams being so full.

As he said to justify his decision:

“Given the current uncertainty about the likely impact of climate change on rainfall patterns in SEQ (southeastern Queensland) over coming years, it is only prudent to assume at this stage that lower than usual rainfalls could eventuate.”

Same story in Victoria, where the Labor Government refused to build a dam on the Mitchell River, claiming that warming meant it wouldn’t fill:

“Unfortunately, we cannot rely on this kind of rainfall like we used to.”

Yet the Mitchell promptly flooded Bairnsdale in 2007, and the desalination plant the Government commissioned instead for four times the price and a third of the water has been delayed by the rains we were told were vanishing.

The Rudd government was also sucked in, and told Murray-Darling farmers they’d have their water rights cut to “save” our rivers. Here’s then-Climate Change Minister Penny Wong in 2008:

“We know the IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said by 2050 that Australia should expect around about a 25 per cent reduction in rainfall in the southern part of the Australia.”

This unquestioning faith in warmist predictions may even have contributed to the drowning of Brisbane, since we now know the Wivenhoe dam built to protect the city from flooding was left too full to do its job well.

Why? A clue may be the Queensland Water Commission’s 2010 South East Queensland Water Strategy:

“The majority of climate modelling done to date indicates that SEQ is likely to become hotter and drier, with reduced inflows to dams and increased demand for water.”

If you thought that, you’d also think twice before draining drinking water in Wivenhoe to make room for the flood that eventually overwhelmed it.

But the final insult is this. For years the CSIRO spruiked the warming faith, even claiming of Al Gore’s error-riddled An Inconvenient Truth that its “scientific basis is very sound”.

Of course, it blamed the drought on manmade warming, but last November - with the rains returned - it issued a report conceding “climate change plays little part in the SEQ rainfall reduction”, which it said was caused by an El Nino, a cooling of the seas off Australia.

What’s more, rather than “permanent drought”, the region could expect a “renewal of a rain-generating process with La Nina bringing higher rainfall” - a natural shift which “might be expected to last for 10 to 20 years”.

So not dry rivers but floods. Not permanent drought but years of plenty. Not manmade but natural.

And still these warmists insist they were and are right. You must laugh them to scorn before they cost you even more
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This is a very important development, and is probably linked to why Sea Surface Heights decreased in 2010.

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New study overturns fears that increased melting could lubricate the ice sheet, causing it to sink ever faster into the sea

The threat of the Greenland ice sheet slipping ever faster into the sea because of warmer summers has been ruled out by a scientific study.

Until now, it was thought that increased melting could lubricate the ice sheet, causing it to sink ever faster into the sea. The issue was a key unknown in the landmark 2007 report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which pinned the blame for climate change firmly on greenhouse gas emissions from human activities.

However, the impact of rising sea temperatures on melting ice sheets is still uncertain, meaning it remains difficult to put an upper limit on potential sea level rises. Understanding the risk is crucial because about 70% of the world's population live in coastal regions, which host many of the world's biggest cities, such as London, New York and Bangkok.

"The Greenland ice sheet is safer than we thought," said Professor Andrew Shepherd of the University of Leeds, who led the research published tomorrow in Nature.

Shepherd's team used satellite imagery to track the progress of the west Greenland ice sheet as it slipped towards the sea each summer, over five years.

Researchers had feared that more melting from the surface of the ice in hotter years would in turn provide more meltwater for a slippery film at the sheet's base. More melting would mean more slippage and a greater rise in the sea level.

But they discovered that, above a certain threshold, the slipping began to slow. On-the-ground studies and work done on alpine glaciers suggest that higher volumes of meltwater form distinct channels under the ice, draining the water more efficiently and reducing the formation of a lubricating film.

The Greenland ice sheet studied by Shepherd's team is up to 1,000m (3,280ft) thick. If the entire ice sheet melted, sea levels would rise by a catastrophic seven metres, but this is likely to take 3,000 years if warm air blowing over the ice is the only way in which the ice melts.

Shepherd said most of the Greenland ice cap was on land and not in contact with the sea, unlike the west Antarctic ice sheet. That ice sheet contains enough water to push up sea level by six metres if it all melted.

He said the next scientific question to answer was whether warmer oceans would erode the edges of ice caps, causing them to fall rapidly into the ocean. "The real threat now is from the oceans melting the west Antarctic ice sheet, which is 3km-4km thick, of which 1km-2km is below sea level."

Shepherd said his work was helping to reduce uncertainties about the consequences of climate change. Asked if he thought his work suggested the wider risks of global warming could be discounted, he said: "Not at all."
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bout time someone did...the BOm and Csiro may be audited.

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That last article was a VERY INTERESTING read AV, I haven't got through all the others but I will do very soon, I'm not well and can't read for long periods of time at the moment. Awesome research AV. I'm hooked.
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Interesting to see what comes about from this. As I have said previously people have staked their jobs and reputations on global warming etc and many industries and new taxes etc are based on this theory. If the data does not support people's theories what are they going to do about it? Are they going to admit that this is the case or are they going to hide data, manipulate it or omit parts of it? ;)
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Monbulkian, thats been going for ages and thats what this is about.
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GISS doing what it does best...adjusting temperatures to the point where its fraudulent.
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NOAA reveals man made global warming is a lie.

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Oh dear....Arctic Free Ice is also a lie.

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Warwick Hughes tackles the BOM as he always has done..and makes some great points, as well looking into the NZ quake.

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floydlove » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:43 pm wrote:
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Global warming effects more likely in WA

GLOBAL warming is likely to be reducing rainfall in Western Australia, a Senate hearing has heard.

Blair Comley, the secretary of the Department of Climate Change, said scientific evidence showed a 90 per cent probability of higher temperatures affecting south-western Australia.

"The evidence is very strong that there is a climate change link to south-western Australia's rainfall changes," he told a Senate estimates hearing on Monday.

Scientific evidence on climate change is less pronounced in the eastern states of Australia.

"The evidence for south-eastern Australia is more mixed, that is, it doesn't get to the 90 per cent confidence level in terms of the impact of climate change," Mr Comley said.

When assessing the sub-regional effects of climate change, probability levels are described in terms such as "likely" or "possible" rather than "very likely", the hearing heard.

Mr Comley said while the public expected certainty from climate science, they needed to realise the data was a risk assessment.

He also indicated it would be difficult to regard the summer floods in Queensland as direct evidence of climate change.

"Things like a rainfall event associated with a flood in 1974 or this year are just one of the set of data points that go into a full climate record," Mr Comley said.
Seems a bit sketchy, reckon all this rain in the South-East has made the evidence not 'get to the 90 percent confidence level in terms of the impact of climate change'?
It is interesting that they are using SW Australia now to point to the fact of Global warming. It is interesting that they have to use the one place where it has been quite hot and dry to support their argument instead of looking at the whole of the country in total. :x It seems to me that they are desperately clutching at straws to support their argument....... :?
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News on the recent Russian heatwave
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New evidence of our past...Greenland had lush forests and tropical like climate.

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